So the compute shaders excuse is no longer viable with more and more featured being dropped from the Mac client as it seems that development has stalled or been abandoned for the platform. Due to the state of development and lack of communication this is definitely something that Frontier has to address openly without subterfuge. Many Mac players funded their game and were part of their success. Honesty is deserved.I cannot possibly agree with you any more than I already do. Frontier need to stop lying by omission. Mac would be up-to-speed with PC if it supported the same technology.

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It doesn't so they can't just roll-out Horizons for Mac unfortunately. You should complain to Apple. If you really want to play the latest version get it on PC or Xbox One.A quick apology to the Mac community. It seems Cosmo and other mouthy juveniles followed me and perhaps others over from the main Frontier forum to troll this forum. Probably because I spanked them for being uncritical fanboys instead of providing FD feedback (see ). And so we have these ignorant trolls about compute shaders and ED game design.

So my apologies. It wasn’t my intention to bring such smartassery here. Cosmo, you and yours might want to study up on what the real issues are with the Mac client in ED. You can start here, and work your way back —. There are plenty of threads to learn from.Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge -. Didn't mean to open up a can of worms.

I just needed to vent a little. I had a Federal Corvette all ready for a fighter bay.

Just to find out that I can't use fighters!:-/ Yes, for the 10000's time I could setup a Windows partition but because I use my computer for professional reasons that do require a somewhat higher level of security, i will not do that. I was starting to really enjoy this game with other Mac friends but given the latest development, I've seemed to have lost them to Battlefield 1 and Skyrim Remastered. I feeling the pull towards Skyrim Remastered myself. Oh dear, Mac users are a right laugh.

Mac managed to switch from an API that simply won't support what Elite needs, to one that is basically a total mess. OP buys a ship in preparation for SLFs despite knowing 2.2 isn't supported, gets indignant and starts a thread to mob FD for 'lying by omission' because they didn't dedicate their entire human and monetary resources to picking up the pieces of yet another Mac gaming disaster. Popcorn anyone?An uniformed troll demonstrating the imperviousness of some to reason and evidence. @StiTch: If you want to learn about this issue, you can start here — — then work your way back.

You might have something helpful to offer afterwards. An uniformed troll demonstrating the imperviousness of some to reason and evidence.

@StiTch: If you want to learn about this issue, you can start here — — then work your way back. You might have something helpful to offer afterwards.Ah yes. I forgot that as a development company, when you have the option to do something, you just press a button and it happens. 'Why didn't FD give us all this content I wanted?'

Well, Nigel - they didn't press the magic content creation button'. Basically that post is 'watch me go on an ego trip telling my version of a story that I swear isn't biased but btw, FD are awful and deserve to be put to a lawsuit'. Apple took a step out of total plankiness and moved into only 'mostly planky'. It doesn't mean that everything falls into place. I forgot that as a development company, when you have the option to do something, you just press a button and it happens. 'Why didn't FD give us all this content I wanted?' Well, Nigel - they didn't press the magic content creation button'.

Basically that post is 'watch me go on an ego trip telling my version of a story that I swear isn't biased but btw, FD are awful and deserve to be put to a lawsuit'. Apple took a step out of total plankiness and moved into only 'mostly planky'. It doesn't mean that everything falls into place.While you are free to disagree, the norms of civil discourse require you provide reason and evidence for your argument. You have not done so, unless you count ad hominem as an argument and not a fallacy. So without relying on the now discredited “compute shaders” excuse, please enlighten us with another reasonable and evidentiary interpretation.

As skeptical as I have become about FD’s motives, I would welcome a better interpretation that would change my mind and provide some hope for the Mac community. You have not done so, unless you count ad hominem as an argument and not a fallacy. So without relying on the now discredited “compute shaders” excuse, please enlighten us with another reasonable and evidentiary interpretation.

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As skeptical as I have become about FD’s motives, I would welcome a better interpretation that would change my mind and provide some hope for the Mac community.I never touched on the compute shaders actually being my issue with all this. I have an issue with this notion that devs just 'handwavium' content and fixes into existence with no pretext as to their internal development methods or current situation, and the assumption that because you do not understand the situation they are acting dishonestly. Oh and while we're at it, seeing as there was no evidence cited in your much beloved FD slating 'thread' (sorry but 'you'll only get the evidence through a lawsuit' doesn't cut it), I would guess that tu quoque applies here. I forgot that as a development company, when you have the option to do something, you just press a button and it happens. 'Why didn't FD give us all this content I wanted?'

Well, Nigel - they didn't press the magic content creation button'. Basically that post is 'watch me go on an ego trip telling my version of a story that I swear isn't biased but btw, FD are awful and deserve to be put to a lawsuit'. Apple took a step out of total plankiness and moved into only 'mostly planky'. It doesn't mean that everything falls into place.Been a mac user since the green screen apple II days, though I'm not a huge mac fan boy as I think apple is making an awful lot of stupid choices of late. For me the upsetting thing isn't that theres no mac version its that there hasn't been any communication one way or another on a mac version of the expansions in some time.

Either they should say we are done supporting the mac or give an update on whether continued development is in the cards. So yes the developer does have a magical button, many in fact, its called keys on a keyboard. They have the power to make a statement, its not that hard.

Oh dear, Mac users are a right laugh. Mac managed to switch from an API that simply won't support what Elite needs, to one that is basically a total mess. OP buys a ship in preparation for SLFs despite knowing 2.2 isn't supported, gets indignant and starts a thread to mob FD for 'lying by omission' because they didn't dedicate their entire human and monetary resources to picking up the pieces of yet another Mac gaming disaster.

Popcorn anyone?Oh look, another person using internet anonymity as an excuse to be a tool! If your still wondering why you can't get a date, just read your posts. I'm hoping you'll figure it out but betting you won't.

Anyhow, to anyone else interested, I didn't know that the 1.7 update wouldn't include the fighters. Yes, still bummed but continuing to enjoy the game the best ways I know how. I'm sure this Stitch fellow didn't bother to read my posts of expressed optimism but I'm sure by now that nobody is expecting much from him. I can more than happily discuss a topic and state a fact without citing references. I never touched on the compute shaders actually being my issue with all this.

I have an issue with this notion that devs just 'handwavium' content and fixes into existence with no pretext as to their internal development methods or current situation, and the assumption that because you do not understand the situation they are acting dishonestly. You can’t be bothered informing yourself about the issues, directly contradict yourself, and still feel entitled to troll. Without mustering a reasoned or evidentiary argument, you fall back on aspersions and bombast. The only point of substance you address is an entirely fraudulent claim that I expect magical development prowess on the part of FD. And yet that is precisely the opposite to what I state in the linked thread and elsewhere. I note that if FD had simply been honest with the Mac community about resource constraint in bringing us planetary landings, the subsequent choices in game design and deployment might have landed us in a much better situation. Note that this element of my argument presupposes that FD, like any organizations, has limitations on what it can achieve in X period of time.

Did you attend Trump University? -Additional Content Posted / Auto Merge -. Oh look, another person using internet anonymity as an excuse to be a tool! If your still wondering why you can't get a date, just read your posts.

I'm hoping you'll figure it out but betting you won't. Anyhow, to anyone else interested, I didn't know that the 1.7 update wouldn't include the fighters. Yes, still bummed but continuing to enjoy the game the best ways I know how. I'm sure this Stitch fellow didn't bother to read my posts of expressed optimism but I'm sure by now that nobody is expecting much from him.Calrissian, you may be more optimistic than I, but I'm glad to hear you are enjoying the Cosmos as best you can! I try as well.

You can’t be bothered informing yourself about the issues, directly contradict yourself, and still feel entitled to troll. Without mustering a reasoned or evidentiary argument, you fall back on aspersions and bombast. The only point of substance you address is an entirely fraudulent claim that I expect magical development prowess on the part of FD. And yet that is precisely the opposite to what I state in the linked thread and elsewhere. I note that if FD had simply been honest with the Mac community about resource constraint in bringing us planetary landings, the subsequent choices in game design and deployment might have landed us in a much better situation. Note that this element of my argument presupposes that FD, like any organizations, has limitations on what it can achieve in X period of time.

Did you attend Trump University?Ah.do I detect a hint of ad hominem? I think I'll make that 'two quoque'.

And yes, that was my favourite pun today P.S. As a Brit I never got the pleasure of Trump University as a choice, so I'll stick to mocking both presidential candidates from overseas, ta. Oh look, another person using internet anonymity as an excuse to be a tool! If your still wondering why you can't get a date, just read your posts.

I'm hoping you'll figure it out but betting you won't. Anyhow, to anyone else interested, I didn't know that the 1.7 update wouldn't include the fighters.

Yes, still bummed but continuing to enjoy the game the best ways I know how. I'm sure this Stitch fellow didn't bother to read my posts of expressed optimism but I'm sure by now that nobody is expecting much from him.Ah of course.when someone is being a tool, respond by telling them they can't get a date, regardless of how much you know of their personal life. Glad to know that if nothing else, I can lure others into my cesspit of internet tomfoolery with a carrot and stick.

Call me stupid if you want, but here you are ankles deep in it Noticing a distinct lack of optimism around here in any case. Just a lot of slating FD. I would contribute something to the optimism, because I'm 100% behind all platforms being level and 100% encourage cross-platform gaming provided security vulnerabilities are kept to a minimum, but just because of the above comment I am going to go pay that non-existent date a 'visit' in about.yup, now. And before we get any hand jokes in there, I split up with my hands to get with my date.

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